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what you're looking at is people, perhaps, moving to get ahead of the obama administration's new and highly unattractive tax plan for investors. big winners on the day, financials, citi group stock up after announcing they are laying off 4% of the work force, cutting cost, bank of america and travelers example of the financialses movg higher. marathon, chevron, conoco all higher. crude oil down for a second straight day closing under 88 a barrel, an ten yeartreary down to 1.59%. no progress in resolving the fiscal cliff today. i know, you're not surprised by that, but we can report there were, well, some contact between the two principle players in the negotiations if there were negotiations. president obama and speaker john boehner actually talked to one another. it was on the telephone. it was not the face-to-face meeting the speaker says is necessary, but it was the first time that the two men have spoken in a week. for the latest on these stalled negotiations, we turn to fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry forhe report. >> trying to lay blame for stalled buet talks
what you're looking at is people, perhaps, moving to get ahead of the obama administration's new and highly unattractive tax plan for investors. big winners on the day, financials, citi group stock up after announcing they are laying off 4% of the work force, cutting cost, bank of america and travelers example of the financialses movg higher. marathon, chevron, conoco all higher. crude oil down for a second straight day closing under 88 a barrel, an ten yeartreary down to 1.59%. no progress in...
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. >> so, is this a question we should be asking the obama administration about syria? >> well, you remember, randi, that president clinton was really angry with me when i was asking that question. the fact of the matter is the question didn't prompt intervention, but there was intervention more than a year later and it stopped the war and the president enacted a peace settlement and the war stopped and peace still endures in bosnia. and i think the issue with syria raises some very important questions. president clinton himself just earlier this year said that the longer it goes without being stopped, the bigger the chance of bad actors getting involved and that is precisely what's happened, randi. that is one more reason that the administration is reluctant to intervene because now it's not just the ordinary rebellion that it started out as with people demanding reform, it is now being joined by all sorts of jihadests and extremists and al qaeda-type affiliates and this is what is really worrying the united states and the region. but this is, if you like a self-fulfil
. >> so, is this a question we should be asking the obama administration about syria? >> well, you remember, randi, that president clinton was really angry with me when i was asking that question. the fact of the matter is the question didn't prompt intervention, but there was intervention more than a year later and it stopped the war and the president enacted a peace settlement and the war stopped and peace still endures in bosnia. and i think the issue with syria raises some very...
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>> well, that's the big -- that's part of the reason why the obama administration has done in the views of many so little toward getting president assad out, and that's because they are just really afraid. syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you have to worry about just this whole break-up and who would govern this region that is so, so -- this country that is so critical for the whole region. but i do think, though, that chemical weapons would be sort of -- that -- i think for the obama administration, that's a line that they would have trouble defending their passivity so far if assad crossed. that's a hard one. it's hard for me to imagine them not doing anything. >> but given that they haven't really done very much over the past 21 months, and they haven't done very much at all, it's not implausible that they would not do the clar tiff thin
>> well, that's the big -- that's part of the reason why the obama administration has done in the views of many so little toward getting president assad out, and that's because they are just really afraid. syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you...
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administration will begin an all-out drive for comprehensive immigration reform, including seeking a path to citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. we will see then where the repub lip cans are. what do you hope to see in the immigration reform if it is real and meaningful to bring us toward a better place in the country, mr. mayor? >> my hope is that comprehensive immigration reform will be just that. it's going to be comprehensive. it's going to include additional mushes that we secure our borders. it's going to include ways to work with employers so that we ensure that fewer employers hire folks who are here undocumented. and, third u it's going to include a pathway to citizenship, to full citizenship, for the 11 or 12 million folks who are here who are undocumented, illegal, whatever term folks want to use. who i believe should be addre addressed and we've heard in the last couple of weeks, some heartburn among republicans who are now just starting to consider the idea of comprehensive immigration reform as to whether they want to actually allow folks to become full-fleje
administration will begin an all-out drive for comprehensive immigration reform, including seeking a path to citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. we will see then where the repub lip cans are. what do you hope to see in the immigration reform if it is real and meaningful to bring us toward a better place in the country, mr. mayor? >> my hope is that comprehensive immigration reform will be just that. it's going to be comprehensive. it's going to include additional mushes that we...
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i am sorry what was obama trying to do with obama care . why was not not addressed and why is that now on the table. you have to realize it is not a administration that wants to do cuts. >> easy answer to that. if you look at original drafts of what the president was talking about when he started out. he wanted address medicare. >> no. sure he wanted toddress it . we can address that iue f another hour but we are runnin out of the time. did you hear what may be on the table to solve our debt mess? raising the gas tax on everybody. will that make a bigger will that make a bigger financial mess for with the sparkash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purche, everday! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great sinesses deserve great rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with
i am sorry what was obama trying to do with obama care . why was not not addressed and why is that now on the table. you have to realize it is not a administration that wants to do cuts. >> easy answer to that. if you look at original drafts of what the president was talking about when he started out. he wanted address medicare. >> no. sure he wanted toddress it . we can address that iue f another hour but we are runnin out of the time. did you hear what may be on the table to solve...
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. ♪ lou: the obama administration tonight ramping up diplomatic efforts to end seer -- syria's bloody civil war and the fear assad could use chemical weapons against his own people. the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meeting with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and today, a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary clinton insisted that the united states and russia share common goals in the region. >> trying hard to work hard with russia to stop the bloodshed in syria and begin a political transition to a post asad future. the pressure against the regime in and around damascus seems to be increasing. lou: at home, leon pa net fa issuing the -- panetta issuing the sharpest warning yet. >> the president of the united states made it
. ♪ lou: the obama administration tonight ramping up diplomatic efforts to end seer -- syria's bloody civil war and the fear assad could use chemical weapons against his own people. the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meeting with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to...
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that's a big step. >> you can decide as the obama administration has not to defend doma. there's still consequences to doma being on the book and reasons why it has to go away. >> absolutely. >> if you are a same-sex couple and married it in one of the states you're now legally married and one dies you face estate tax situations. >> yeah. >> that a heterosexual couple doesn't. every time you file federal taxes you are treated differently. it says these relationships are lesser. i think we've evolved to a point this country where we accept gay and lesbian people as equal and say their relationships in the federal law are lesser than we're saying they're lesser. >> how it fits with the immigration debate as well. >> certainly. it's presently worth noting that bill clinton should maybe take a page from the joe biden playbook because he after all is the person we have to thank -- >> the joe biden playbook. >> and taking a page from it. >> thank you to ari, joy and frank for joining me today. that is all for us here at "now." see you back tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pa
that's a big step. >> you can decide as the obama administration has not to defend doma. there's still consequences to doma being on the book and reasons why it has to go away. >> absolutely. >> if you are a same-sex couple and married it in one of the states you're now legally married and one dies you face estate tax situations. >> yeah. >> that a heterosexual couple doesn't. every time you file federal taxes you are treated differently. it says these...
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revenue has gone up every year of the obama administration and now, we're at historic highs. the same as we were five years ago. the difference is, our spending has increased a trillion dollars. >> yeah, but a lot of that spending is things to help the economy. it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported. it's extending unemployment benefits. it's things like that. t the war. >> that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective. we've got two philosophies. one says we're spending too much. the other saying we're not spending enough. that's hurting our economy. obviously, the last four years have been more focused on the spending. we continue to pile up more and more debt, we've crossed 100% of debt to gdp. >> but you're line of thinking, i feel like we end up in a situation where all you doe is keep cutting taxes. you start to have a revenue problem. you give a payroll tax, you don't want to tack it away. you keep giving out things and never take them back. >> well, that's the same thing we do on the spending side. >> all those agencies -- is now st
revenue has gone up every year of the obama administration and now, we're at historic highs. the same as we were five years ago. the difference is, our spending has increased a trillion dollars. >> yeah, but a lot of that spending is things to help the economy. it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported. it's extending unemployment benefits. it's things like that. t the war. >> that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective. we've got two philosophies....
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yet, the obama administration and the democratic party continue to put forth that higher taxation will bring the massive government debt under control. perhaps the only democrat telling the truth about this is our old pal howard dean, the uber liberal former governor of vermont. >> the truth is everybody needs to pay more taxes, not just the rich. that's a good start. but we're north going to get out of this deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board. >> bill: governor dean sympathizes with the socialist philosophy and that's where the government is heading. taking from those who are productive and giving to those who are struggling. or who are working for the massive government apparatus. during this christmas season we all should emulate officer deprimo. that help may be futile. if the federal government doesn't wise up and impose some discipline on the incredible, incredible entitlement spending, america's economy will eventually collapse: president obama needs to invite jeffrey hillman to the white house. he needs to talk to the man with no shoes. he needs to see what i
yet, the obama administration and the democratic party continue to put forth that higher taxation will bring the massive government debt under control. perhaps the only democrat telling the truth about this is our old pal howard dean, the uber liberal former governor of vermont. >> the truth is everybody needs to pay more taxes, not just the rich. that's a good start. but we're north going to get out of this deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board. >> bill: governor...
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my next guest says the obama administration is punishing job producers and subsidizing a withdrawal from the work force. joining us now, one of the country's most houghtfl, provocative political and economic thinkers, author george gilder who wrote the best seller, wealth and poverty, and a seminal work in it is great to have you with us. some people upon closer inspection, it isot good news anand people are leaving the wok force. >> it sure isn't. we are paying people to leave the workforce. some $1 trillion offpaments of various kinds to keep people from working and to break up their families and to demoralize their earnest. it is -- it ignores the elephant in the room which is a massive departure of the prime age man from the work force. it is accelerating today. and part of tis is being subsidized by the government through record disability payments. lou: disability aymts from social security administration, taking that a side when one looks at food stamps and medicaid alone, you can add other incentives as well and support programs, but we ae looking at the prospect of having one in
my next guest says the obama administration is punishing job producers and subsidizing a withdrawal from the work force. joining us now, one of the country's most houghtfl, provocative political and economic thinkers, author george gilder who wrote the best seller, wealth and poverty, and a seminal work in it is great to have you with us. some people upon closer inspection, it isot good news anand people are leaving the wok force. >> it sure isn't. we are paying people to leave the...
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the obama administration is signaling it may step in and actively enforce federal drug laws which still outlaw smoking marijuana. and that could create very tricky political balancing act for president obama himself. john avlon is "outfront" on this story right now. this is a tightrope for the president, john. >> it is. it's fascinating. a brand new quinnipiac poll illustrates what a tough situation this is. for the first time, a narrow majority of americans, 51%, support legalizing marijuana. but here's where it gets politically interesting. when you break it down by party i.d., 58% of democrats and independents support legalizing marijuana. clear majority. only 31% of republicans do, however. so it's a fascinating shift where liberals and independents are saying, look. states rights at least on this issue. more individual liberty. and republicans are being more traditionalist about their attitudes. final point, this poll makes very clear it's a generational shift. just a second ago you were talking about the evolution of this issue of same-sex marriage. same thing with marijuana legal
the obama administration is signaling it may step in and actively enforce federal drug laws which still outlaw smoking marijuana. and that could create very tricky political balancing act for president obama himself. john avlon is "outfront" on this story right now. this is a tightrope for the president, john. >> it is. it's fascinating. a brand new quinnipiac poll illustrates what a tough situation this is. for the first time, a narrow majority of americans, 51%, support...
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these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them out. it's hard to see how they advance his cause. >> assad would face complete obliteration if he does this. and some say he wants asylum in venezuela or whatever. he's not a stupid man. why would he risk the wrath of the world ascending on him? >> it's hard to see how this advances his cause, except as part of the negotiation. if you're trying to get a better deal for your family, then, maybe it's useful. >> would this create an internal coup, with his background? i don't know how sane he is or not, and what he's done. he's killing his own people. he's butchering his own people. when do the colonels come after him, to use a latin phrase? >> i don't think that happens. if anything, i think assad may be a prisoner of his security establishment. i don't think he will be pushed aside by his aides. >> when do the
these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them out. it's hard to see how they advance his cause. >> assad would face complete obliteration if he does this. and some say he wants asylum in venezuela or whatever. he's not a stupid man. why would he risk the wrath of the world...
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the obama administration skated the plan to put black boxes in every new car. this is an invasion of privacy, and fox news legal analysts says it is 100% legal. mercedes, to their point, administration's point would ascertain the reason hind an accident and if we had this with the toyota cars, the brakes going, going off cliffs, whatever was going on, we could have resolved it legally long beforehand; right? >> what a great idea. so maay individuals either use the cars inappropriately, speeding down the road, breaking, not paying attention, didn't belt in, and suddenly, there's something that records all of that activity that can say, wait a minute, it's not the product. it's the manner in which the product was used. it's going to save lotsf money for the corporations who create the cars, two, it can provide insight as to whether there's criminality. someone speeding down the road at 120-130 miles per hour -- neil: that's the creepy part to me. >> 100% big brother, monitor everything you do, every road you're on, every place you're at, whether you have your sea
the obama administration skated the plan to put black boxes in every new car. this is an invasion of privacy, and fox news legal analysts says it is 100% legal. mercedes, to their point, administration's point would ascertain the reason hind an accident and if we had this with the toyota cars, the brakes going, going off cliffs, whatever was going on, we could have resolved it legally long beforehand; right? >> what a great idea. so maay individuals either use the cars inappropriately,...
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this puts the obama administration in a very difficult position. it puts nato in a very difficult position. is there something preemptive that it must do in order to prevent the assad regime from using these weapons? is there any warning or emissary that can be sent to tell them that this is a red line and that it should not be done? >> excellent question about moving preemptively because the red line would mean that basically people would have to die, jennifer, in order for that line to be crossed. so then you ask can something be done to keep that from happening? real quickly al qaeda and other militants sometimes will move in and cede ground when conflicts are happening. >> i think what we have been seeing in syria and because the situation has been festers in syria for such a long time, you have seen various factions taking advantage of the an arcky. certainly there is concerns and some evidence that al qaeda-linked groups have tried to operate within syr
this puts the obama administration in a very difficult position. it puts nato in a very difficult position. is there something preemptive that it must do in order to prevent the assad regime from using these weapons? is there any warning or emissary that can be sent to tell them that this is a red line and that it should not be done? >> excellent question about moving preemptively because the red line would mean that basically people would have to die, jennifer, in order for that line to...
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four billion in administrative costs. they don't want to lose their jobs either. victoriarings up a point. there is it a industry of bureaucracy that is created around all of these poverty programs. not just food stamps. if you add up all of the poverty programs excluding social security. it comes up to $22000 for every poor person in america. why not just get rid of the bureaucracy and cut them a check. >> we could have a great ide and debate. going back to food stamps and the idea of government promoting that. we have a farm bill that proposes four billion in cuts to the food stamp and the agricultural committee chair woman said they would be more open to cutting back more. >> rich, i see all of the advertising of the government to put people on food stamps and 15 million more people on food stamps after that government program, isn't there a relationship there? >> there is . victoria properly stribes something that you call the welfare industrial complex. it gets to a certain size and looks on behalf of itself and that is a bad thing. we have another crisis her
four billion in administrative costs. they don't want to lose their jobs either. victoriarings up a point. there is it a industry of bureaucracy that is created around all of these poverty programs. not just food stamps. if you add up all of the poverty programs excluding social security. it comes up to $22000 for every poor person in america. why not just get rid of the bureaucracy and cut them a check. >> we could have a great ide and debate. going back to food stamps and the idea of...
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attorney or it's a trial balloon from the obama administration. and i think more likely, it's a trial balloon. because obama himself has said, look, i'm the president, but i can't legalize marijuana, because congress has outlawed it. either way, it is a trial balloon in the sense that it's going to have a chilling effect on the evolution of the industry in washington. the governor of the state, the regulators, when they get together to hash out the structure of the market, they are conspiring to break federal law. they're committing a crime. >> right. so how is that going to play out? in both these states, you have, you know, basically the law says they're going to have legalized marijuana growth and distribution and regulate it. can any of that even take place, unless there is some resolution from the federal government about how they're going to treat it? >> i think the state's going to move forward and wait to hear. they can't expect any resolution before they move forward. they have one year to do something that no one has ever done, create th
attorney or it's a trial balloon from the obama administration. and i think more likely, it's a trial balloon. because obama himself has said, look, i'm the president, but i can't legalize marijuana, because congress has outlawed it. either way, it is a trial balloon in the sense that it's going to have a chilling effect on the evolution of the industry in washington. the governor of the state, the regulators, when they get together to hash out the structure of the market, they are conspiring...
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revenue has gone up every single year in the obama administration, and now we're at historic highs. the difference is our spending increased a trillion dollars from five years ago, but the revenue is the same. >> a lot of that spending is things to help the economy, right? it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported, right? it's extending unemployment benefits and things like that. it's the war. >> right. that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective right now. we have two philosophies. one is saying we're spending too much and the other is saying we don't spend enough. obviously the last four years are spending more to stimulate. i'm not sure if that will work long-term. we've crossed 100% of debt to gdp. i don't think that gets better as you get higher. >> the only thing that confuses me about it, i feel like in a situation where all you do is keep cutting taxes and have a revenue problem, right? you give a tax cut to the middle class you don't want it to take it away from them. you keep giving out things p and you never take them back. >> well, that
revenue has gone up every single year in the obama administration, and now we're at historic highs. the difference is our spending increased a trillion dollars from five years ago, but the revenue is the same. >> a lot of that spending is things to help the economy, right? it's the payroll tax cut extension, which your party supported, right? it's extending unemployment benefits and things like that. it's the war. >> right. that's going to be the challenge of the whole perspective...
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what the obama administration is doing is unilaterally reducing the military capability of our forces. this is at a time when we have china with its massive force expansion, building a world capable force projection capability. we have the russians modernizing the russian forces. we still have the ranian problem totally unresolved, north korea always a flashpoint. look at the middle east. anything far from being settled there. and let me take that navy as an example, which will be illustrative of the other forces and what it will do to the nay. it will take the navy and drive it down to the smallest force it has had since prior to world war one. not world war ii, lou. world war one. lou: you know, i'm sorry, admiral. when governor romney said that, pointed that out to president obama in the debate, he was -- we had horses and bayonets, too. he seemed to make lht of that. how important is it? can you give us a sense of the impact? >> i think the president's comment is showing his inexperience in military matters. in this particular case we are going downto 220 ships. to put that number
what the obama administration is doing is unilaterally reducing the military capability of our forces. this is at a time when we have china with its massive force expansion, building a world capable force projection capability. we have the russians modernizing the russian forces. we still have the ranian problem totally unresolved, north korea always a flashpoint. look at the middle east. anything far from being settled there. and let me take that navy as an example, which will be illustrative...
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president obama administration is quietly handing over billions of dollars to the united nations in the name of global warming. >> that was the opening salvo of a recorded message that was sent to qatar where they joined 200 countries around the world this week at a united nations climate issue summit. negotiations continue regarding a large scale climate treaty to be signed by 2015. while the u.s. senate would have to ratify any international treaty by two-third vote, inhalf says he and others are more concerned about the domestic regulations. he continued to press white house about why the administration failed to issue reports on pending regulations in april and october as required by law. the white house wouldn't explain the last to us, the source says the federal agencies are in the process of pulling together that information. bret? >> bret: thank you. there are a lot of extremely happy people in washington state tonight at the stroke of midnight, hundreds lit up under the seattle space needl needle. recreational marijuana use became legal. washington and colorado became the first
president obama administration is quietly handing over billions of dollars to the united nations in the name of global warming. >> that was the opening salvo of a recorded message that was sent to qatar where they joined 200 countries around the world this week at a united nations climate issue summit. negotiations continue regarding a large scale climate treaty to be signed by 2015. while the u.s. senate would have to ratify any international treaty by two-third vote, inhalf says he and...
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and were increased by the obama administration. the report is not political in any way shape or form. it endorses things that are supported by the right in some cases and that are supported by people on the left. you cannot just take the parts that you like. you have to take the holistic approach, to maximize u.s. production and to reduce consumption partly by diversifying our transportation sector away from petroleum. the last thing i will say is that petroleum use in transportation is the pivot point of this entire problem. 70% of our use of petroleum in this country is for transportation. transportation is fueled about 93% of the time by petroleum. if you want to reduce the united states' dependence on imported petroleum and the related geopolitical issues, particularly in an issue when rising demand is creating a potential conflict for these resources, then you have to recognize transportation has to be diversified away from petroleum or the prices are set on the world market. canada and norway have been net petroleum exporters
and were increased by the obama administration. the report is not political in any way shape or form. it endorses things that are supported by the right in some cases and that are supported by people on the left. you cannot just take the parts that you like. you have to take the holistic approach, to maximize u.s. production and to reduce consumption partly by diversifying our transportation sector away from petroleum. the last thing i will say is that petroleum use in transportation is the...
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melissa has the former obama administration official. that's melissa harris-perry coming up next. we'll see you next week here on "up." and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like the help of an attorney. at legalzoom a legal plan attorney is available in most states with every personalized document to answer questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your mont
melissa has the former obama administration official. that's melissa harris-perry coming up next. we'll see you next week here on "up." and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your...
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. >> obama administration has put more political ambassadors in than prior republican administraons. now is that good or bad? it is good. the political ambassadors have a direct connection with the president, in countries where they are acredited, if they say, this is at the president wants that is believable. and their loyalty is to the president not state department. and they care a lot in my experience about making sure that president's policies are carriee out. and third, and look -- >> would see? >> no anna wintour from a cord of wood, but i do know she knows something about business,. neil: you support this? >> i don'tnow her. >> i think if it was france it would be perfect. with the style. i don't see a problem. >> i don't but i think that in advocating american business against european ambassadors who spend a consider an poke of theiportion their time on it cod someone in business themselves can be effective. neil: no doubt. we were talking about. joe kennedy, -- john kennedy's father got the ambassadorship to england to get off of fdr's back for helping him. so, i know how
. >> obama administration has put more political ambassadors in than prior republican administraons. now is that good or bad? it is good. the political ambassadors have a direct connection with the president, in countries where they are acredited, if they say, this is at the president wants that is believable. and their loyalty is to the president not state department. and they care a lot in my experience about making sure that president's policies are carriee out. and third, and look --...